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EAST LOS ANGELES COLLEGE
Educational Plan Subcommittee Minutes
 Thursday, June 23, 2005


 

PRESENT    
Karen Daar Dean Athans
Richard Moyer, Dennis Villacorte
Ran Gust Jeffrey Hernandez
David Beaulieu, Christine Rodriguez
Leonor Perez Allison Davis
Deborah Anderson Dan Frise

I. CALL THE MEETING TO ORDER
     The meeting was called to order at 2:10 p.m.


II. APPROVAL OF MINUTES:
 
    M/S/P (R.Moyer/D.Beaulieu) to approve the minutes of the May 17, 2005.

III. OFF SITE EDUCATION:
   
L. Perez reported that Allen Petersen (formally of State Chancellor’s Office) in conjunction with Gil Velazquez (formally of CPEC) are expected to oversee the approval process for South Gate’s application for center status. She distributed to the committee a list of items required for the application. Petersen and Velazquez will visit the campus during the third week of July to make a presentation about the process to those interested. She also stated that by Fall South Gate will need an educational plan listing goals and educational and space needs for the center. The South Gate plan should look similar to the educational plan for the main campus. She is hopeful that Petersen and Velazquez will assist in producing enrollment projections for the next ten years, both for South Gate and the main campus. She further informed the committee that focus groups will need to meet to discuss priorities and goals for the center, however much of that information may also be obtained from program reviews. Although certain goals for the center, such as Student Success, will be the same as at the main campus, the objectives to achieve those goals might differ—for example, more emphasis on learning communities at South Gate. C. Rodriguez also reported on her 3-day tour with nine others (including Ernest Moreno, Larry Eisenberg, Sylvia Scott Hayes, and Steve Lefevre from the city of South Gate) back east to four states. The group visited various educational institutions, including Baltimore City College, Boston Harvard Square, Johns Hopkins University, MIT, University of Illinois, Chicago and Northwestern, Marquette College and Immanuel College, all which currently have mixed use of educational and retail space. She told the committee that she came back with a strong belief that in order for the South Gate MOU (which currently reserves 20 acres for academic use and 15 for retail) to be profitable, the community needs to be involved (either through surveys, focus groups, or even by directly asking the city council) in the decision on the types of retail they would like to see at the site. Also, a clear delineation between campus and retail space seemed to work best at the campuses visited.

  1. D. Anderson informed the committee that she received a request from Dean Al Rios for her department to offer more upper-level classes at South Gate. She was surprised by the request, for it sounded to her that South Gate will no longer only offer introductory courses (requiring students to take more advanced courses at the main campus), but rather duplicate what is currently offered at East. She claimed that this was problematic, particularly when offering labs, as South Gate does not have equivalent facilities.
  2. L. Perez stated that in 20 years, South Gate is expected to be an independent college, so Academic Affairs needs to study what can and cannot be duplicated from East.
  3. C. Rodriguez corrected that those decisions are to be made by the faculty. She also informed the committee that Larry Eisenberg requested from East clearer ideas of what the South Gate program and the facilities for the new center will look like.
  4. D. Beaulieu stated that the old Educational Plan already lists action items for South Gate. The aim was to serve the imposed figure of 12,000 student headcount (a figure he always objected to for he can foresee the center moving even beyond that.) He further suggested that the lost of accreditation by Compton College may further shoot South Gate enrollments up. He warned that East would not want to regret later a site in which too much limited acreage was given over to retail. However, he is also encouraged by how the South Gate community seems to be a little more receptive this year to the idea of an academic site.
  5. L. Perez stated that South Gate enrollment projections, based on FTES and not on types of classes, will probably come by the end of summer. She will also ask the Senate to assist in setting up forums to talk about South Gate’s educational plan (as any Accreditation team will want documentation that input was provided). The last South Gate educational plan was only for three years. It included no input from subcommittees, as none (except EBPAC) existed. Today, she believes the process will not be as difficult, because now East has a template. She further added that programming for South Gate is only the beginning of a long process.

IV EDUCATION PLAN:

L. Perez informed the committee that ELAC’s educational plan is due to expire in 2006, and the college needs to create a new one along with the South Gate educational plan. K. Daar reminded the committee that she distributed the Educational Plan at the beginning of the Spring semester, and asked committee members to review the plan and to give suggestions on what still needs to be done, however no one has yet responded. L. Perez stated that it would be helpful to review line items and decide which action items should be retained or deleted from plan.

  1. D. Beaulieu stated that few of the items from the previous plan have been implemented, so it shouldn’t be difficult to recreate efforts from the past. He claimed that in the past, facilities overwhelmed the college. L. Perez was doing two jobs (facilities and educational planning) at the same time. At some point, he stated, the college will need more people to work on the plan (whether they be reassigned faculty or designated administrators). He further added that currently there is a dearth of reassigned time for faculty, and as the college implements items listed on the previous plan, time and resources need to be taken into account.
  2. C. Rodriguez suggested that perhaps some of the people listed on the current plan as overseeing an implementation step did not know that the step was even assigned to them. She further added that greater efforts for accountability is needed (supervisors should be asking for updates on a consistent schedule, etc.)
  3. D. Anderson suggested that some of the action items listed may not been implemented due to opposition expressed during its implementation. She stated, as an example, that it looked like the action item for implementing English advisories for transfer-level courses would be done (as one person followed through and stayed with the action item), but in the end it was not implemented due to recent disagreement expressed by some on applying the advisory to all transfer-level courses.
  4. D. Beaulieu stated that the advisory issue at least led to student success discussions, and now we are close to some kind of proposal. In creating the new plan, he would hate to see action items that already had so much thinking and half-acting applied to them be halted just because we have to think about the item again for a new plan.

V STUDENT PREPARATION:

R. Gust suggested for the committee to ask Nadia Mendoza from the Early Assessment Program and Reading Institute of Academic Preparation to give a presentation on CSULA’s assessment of high schools students, and ensure that East is not duplicating assessment efforts. K. Daar will forward the recommendation to the Matriculation Committee.

VI. STUDENT SUCCESS:
D. Beaulieu reported that the makeup of the District Student Success Steering Committee will probably be 7-10 individuals and four workgroups on verbal, quantitative, learning (time management, etc.), and college knowledge skills. These groups will report back to the Board, but will not act as a top-down imposition on the colleges. Membership still needs to be determined. East’s Student Success group (an EPSC subcommittee) can work in tandem with the District group, and the college’s discussion on how to better remediate in math and English will benefit from the District discussion. K. Daar also stated that the Student Success committee should be more formalized and not just made up of people who expressed interest from the preceding Senate discussion. Other key representatives from the campus, including non-credit (who had agreed to participate, but was never informed that the ad hoc group from the Senate discussion had recently met). EPSC needs to do a better job advertising the committee’s existence to the campus community.

Meeting adjourned 3:25 p.m.
Respectfully Submitted,
Karen Daar
EPSC Co-chair

 

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